Married to a Pedophile: The Mystery of the Elder’s Meeting

Thanks so much for your interest in keeping our children safe from predators!  It has been so encouraging to me to see so many of you reading this blog, posting comments, and sharing this valuable information with your friends!

If you are new to this blog, I would suggest you start reading here. It will give you a much better feel for the way a pedophile works very hard to target and ensnare both the child victims as well as the adults.

I’m going to skip over several months of activities in our married lives in order to move on to what I think were the biggest red flags in our almost forty years of marriage.  Trust me when I say now that I’ve been reading, studying, talking with victims, and gathering information, there were hundreds of red flags along the way but unless you have some sort of base knowledge of how pedophiles work you will remain naive, like I was, to the pedophilic behaviors happening right before your eyes.

By this time in our married lives, John had graduated college with a degree in Religious Education.  He was the first student graduating from Oklahoma Christian University with such a degree.  He persuaded his professors to allow him to change his major from business to bible in his senior year of college, and then to go overseas one semester living in Israel with his parents while “studying” (I honestly don’t know how he got this approved yet!), and then when he came back to the states he would need an extra semester of bible in order to get his self-made degree in religious education.  As he put it, his job would be to “coordinate bible curriculum” for churches from nursery classes through adult classes on a rotation basis.  Sounds pretty good, doesn’t it?  Funny thing is he never used that degree!  What he wanted to do was become a youth minister! His focus was working with young children!

Notice once again the manipulation of his professors!  John was never overtly confrontational but he was quietly stubborn.  Once he said something that was it.  That’s how it was and he would not back down.  Interestingly, he could manipulate the most intelligent of people without them ever knowing it!

I was well into my role as a mother by now, and I loved every second of it.  John was away from home so much that I called the church his “first home.”  He loved being out with the youth.  He no longer had college classes to attend, and he was now officially on the payroll as a youth minister for a large church.  He was happy!  And, I was happy staying home with my little girl!

Let me insert something here.  By “happy” I mean I was happy that I had someone to hold and love and cuddle.  I did not get those things from my husband.  He remained distant and very quiet with me.  It boggled my mind (and at times it still does) when I think of his two very distinct personalities.  When he was among the kids at church he was energetic, full of laughter, and always the life of the party.  When he was home, he would slump in a chair, his eyes would roll back in his head and he’d fall asleep.  Night after night after night I’d wait up for him, but it was all in vain.  He didn’t speak to me more than a “yeah”, “no”, “okay”, “I’m tired” and “I’ve got to get up early.  I’m going to bed.”  It was noticeable to anyone who knew us.  I was asked many, many times what was wrong with “us.”

After a while, you just grow to accept that this is how things are going to be.  My life and my focus was my daughter.  And, oh how happy that must have made John!  I had plenty to occupy me right at home in our apartment while he was out and about.

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Note It is not normal for a husband to desire to be with others more than his own wife.  It is really not normal for a husband to desire being with church youth more than his own wife and daughter!  Mental abuse is real, and it does a lot of harm.  I liken it to training a pet.  After a while, a pet learns to accept a little pat on the head and not ask for more attention, but that pet is always there ready to shower his owner with affection.  I felt dehumanized on so many levels. I felt like a dog who was always begging for crumbs of time and affection.  Little-by-little any self-worth that I had was being stripped away.  It’s humiliating to beg for affection!

John was busy planning a huge week-long youth event that was to take place at a camp about four hours away from the church.  He had a large group of youth going, and a host of parents were also attending as chaperones and bringing their young children.  It was going to be a family affair.  You guessed it! Just as happened with the New Year’s Eve party,  I was not invited to go along!!!  Why?  John said it would be too hard with me and our daughter there.  He said it was his job to keep things going all week-long and he was going to be too busy taking care of all of the details to have to deal with us.

I cried until my heart felt like it was broken in two.  We had never been separated since getting married and I didn’t want to be away from the man I loved — not even for one night.  This was going to be seven long nights alone!  I cried and begged some more, but to no avail.  The answer was a firm “no.”

Note:  John never, ever raised his voice.  He always seemed so “in control” no matter was situation arose.  However, he would never bend once his decision was made!  This is master manipuation and control at its best!

erins flowers 025 - cash register use this!Something wasn’t adding up.  Why were others going as a family but we weren’t?  Why didn’t John want me with him?  I wasn’t some monster or some nagging wife who would have hung all over him.  I just wanted to spend the week with the man I loved!

Instead, John came up with a wonderful plan.  “Why don’t you and the baby fly to New Jersey for the week?”  “What? How can I handle her on a plane by myself?”  He assured me I could do it, so I called home and asked if that would be okay.  Somehow my family managed to get together the money for a plane ticket and off to New Jersey we were going during the week of the youth camp.

NoteNever once did John call me during his week at camp! This is a huge red flag!  This practice became routine for him throughout our years together.  He would go away for a week at a time and never call home, nor would he give me a number of where he was staying.  My coined phrase became, “I could have a child dead and buried and you’d never know it.  I have no idea how to track you down.”  His secrecy was another huge, ongoing red flag! 

Timw went by ao slowly for me that week.  I missed having John home at night.  Strange, you might be saying.  But, not really.  I had been conditioned to think I couldn’t survive by myself.  I somehow felt like this trip was a “punishment” rather than a special treat.  We were just two years into our marriage and my strongest desire was to be a great Christian wife and mother.  I wanted nothing more.  How could I do that when it felt like we were growing further and further apart?

I still remember so many details of that week.  I remember that by Wednesday I wanted to go back to Oklahoma early.  I would sit by the phone praying that John would call.  Even a two minute call would have been fine.  But nothing.  Absolutely nothing.  Not one word!

Finally, on Saturday night my daughter and I flew into Oklahoma City Airport. Sadly, were not greeted by John, but rather were greeted by a lady from church.  John was with his youth group, of course.

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Note If something feels wrong, it probably is!   Learn to go with your gut feelings, especially when there are obvious red flags dangling right before your eyes!

From the book, “Not With My Child”, ‘ Skillful abusers can easily provide youth with seemingly genuine attention, companionship, love, emotional rapport and a sense of belonging that they crave.  Youths are accustomed to spending time alone and are not afraid to be alone with someone they like (especially in a church setting).  Parents and protectors responsible for the youths are more than willing to be relieved of responsibilities so that they can have time of their own.’

Please listen carefully to what I’m about to say.  John was called into an elder’s meeting on Sunday night after church.  I didn’t think anything of it.  I thought they’d probably go over the details of the week at camp.  When John came home from the meeting he went straight to bed.  Little did I know what news was going to be given to me in the morning!

John got up early as usual on Monday morning.  He spent his two hours in the bathroom.  But, he did not go to work.  He said he had some news to tell me.  “I was fired last night!  Those elders are total jerks.  They said I’m not communicating good enough with the kids or their parents, so they fired me as of last night.”

I was in shock.  Total shock.  His life was those kids and the church.  How could those elders do that to him?  Why would they do something so wrong to a man who gave so much to the church?  I pulled him close and sobbed, but he would have none of that.  He said, “I don’t need them.  I’ll find another job.  We’ll just use this as our chance to move back closer to home.”

Notice the control?  Notice how I stood by him?  Notice how I didn’t press him for answers?  I sided right with him saying the elders were horrible men to do that.  Never, ever would I have questioned if something went wrong during that week! This is what total control over a person does!  He had masterfully contolled me just as he controlled the children he molested throughout the years. I stood up for him — not questions asked!

As I look back now, there were patterns that had formed already.  John was permanently kicked out of Boy Scouts.  I never learned why.  He was kicked out of church camp.  I never  knew why.  He was fired from a previous job working at Wilson Meat Company.  I never knew why.  Something was very, very wrong, and it would be almost forty years until I could begin to put the pieces together!

Grooming.  Control.  Manipulation.  Mental abuse.  All of these are characteristic of pedophiles.

Thank you so much for following along on this journey of me being married to a practicing pedophile for almost forty years without know it.  Please pay close attention to the intertwining of events, the red flags that were overlooks, and the tightening control over the years.  Sadly, I was the perfect mate for a pedophile!  I have cried millions of tears over this, and I pray that nobody else will ever fall into the same horrible trap!

For the children, let’s get educated!  For the children, let’s stop this type of control and abuse!  For the children, let’s not allow these predators to ever get to our children again!

Next week we will talk about the job search and our move.  In the meantime, please keep your eyes open.  Be aware of the things that just don’t seem right!  Ask questions.  Speak up.  Speak out.  Set boundaries.  Keep your children safe!

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Love,

Clara

PS  It is my sincere belief that something happened with one of the children at church camp that week.  I believe it with all of my heart! I have tried to locate the elders, but unfortunately cannot.  Most (if not all) of them have since died.

13 thoughts on “Married to a Pedophile: The Mystery of the Elder’s Meeting

  1. Clara,
    I just recently found your blog here. I sent you a message on the facebook Silent Grief webpage but it looks like you have not read it yet. I am so sorry for all you are going through.
    God Bless,
    Michelle

    • Hi, Michelle! I’m so glad you found the blog here, and no I didn’t see the message on the SG FB page. I’ll be sure to look for it, though. Thank you so much for your kind thoughts!

    • Les has to be right. The person he is referring to sat behind me every week in Sunday school and in a million years I would have never guessed he was the wolf in sheep’s clothing he turned out to be. The forty years you lived with a pedophile illustrates just how cunning these beasts can be – if even his wife could be fooled, how much easier it was to convince everyone else. I remember someone saying “you don’t just start molesting at 70 years old” but there was no prior record to my knowledge. Without some documentation, there was no trail, nothing to suggest when he was arrested that it could be anything but a mistake. A nice looking, soft spoken, well versed Christian man who had a congregation of people willing to vouch for him. I shudder to think I had almost allowed him to take my own grandson to the restroom during VBS but something (the HOLY SPIRIT) told me take him myself. Not that I had any inclination not to trust him, more like it was something I needed to do myself. It is still hard to believe such evil existed, no THRIVED, in our church and Karen and Cole paid the ultimate price. I know they are in heaven but life on earth will never be the same for any of us, least of all their beloved family. We lost our minister and not just pieces, but chunks of our lives that day in October two years ago. Now that we know about the evil of pedophilia we can’t “unlearn” the horror and we must be on guard as a society. Thank you for allowing us to learn from your grief in your journey Clara. I pray for you and your family.

      • Deb, I do believe Les is right one with what he said. It’s so sad — terribly, terribly devastating — that such horror has to happen in this world in which we live. Thank you so very much for your continued thoughts and prayers.

    • Les, You are no doubt correct in your assumption. My heart just drops every time I think about this. So many of us (especially Christians) are so afraid to hurt someone’s feelings or be accused of falsely judging another. Well, it’s time we speak up for our children and stop being so afraid of hurting someone’s feelings. I’m so sorry, Les. 🙁

  2. Oh, Clara, how I ache for you. Oh, how I hope that those of us who are following your story closely will really listen and learn to SEE those red flags before their damage is done.
    Love you, dear lady!

    • Betty, Thank you so very much! You are special beyond words!!! Your love and support mean so very much to me!

  3. I would guess something happened that week, and like happens many times, they just fired him and saw it as getting rid of the problem. Except it didn’t, because he would go on to do it over and over again. This sort of thing continues to happen every day, which is so sad, because some of this abuse could be prevented if these people would pursue charges instead of just firing a person and sending them on to another job to abuse others.

    Thanks again for sharing Clara!! 🙂

    • Oh, I’m 99.9% certain something happened that week. I think somebody told on him. And, you are so right! Most people don’t want to deal with the problem. They want to shut a door and pretend it never happened. By firing John, I’m sure they felt the problem was solved. You and I both know that’s not how it works. 🙁

      • I wish too, that some churches would realize that by not speaking of it and passing on the problem, they are enabling it.

    • Kristin, Thank YOU for reading and being supportive. I suppose this will get a bit easier with time, but for now….not so easy. But, how can this story not be told? Again, thank you!

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